Have you heard recently about Top NBA Stars which left their hard-working and poor teams?
OK, that was a joke, if you follow NBA in any capacity you couldn’t have missed that memo ;-)
But there was always one thing which bothered me about this topic: reason for their actions.
Was it big market glamour? Was it a chase for fame or rings? Was it money/greed? Is it some kind of a trend? A lot of articles were written about this so I finally sat down and spent far too many hours to figure out why… but I think I found an satisfying answer [at least for me].
There were some rules for this exercise, thanks to prosportstransactions.com I reviewed every team’s move from the time franchise player was drafted or signed huge extension to the dreaded day given star was out with following assumptions:
- All decisions are in a chronological order,
- I included every contract worth more than 5 million dollars [total],
- I ignored every minimum contracts and all other small ones unless they were important in some way,
- I included every significant trade – meaning either good or expensive players were involved,
- I ignored every trade with marginal assets involved like 2nd round draft pick for future 2nd rounder or bench guy for bench guy with low salaries etc unless they were important in some way,
- I tried very hard NOT to use hindsight in my judgements but obviously in some cases [especially with rookies and injuries] it was inevitable,
- Obviously some if not all grades are subjective and probably arguable but I doubt you can move them up or down significantly,
- I measured predictability of each outcome in a very simple way: “what if said GM had used advanced boxscore statistics like Win Shares, PER, Wins Produced to support his decisions?”,
- It was a quite long list so if I missed anything important please let me know in the comments,
- If you are not interested in gory details, just scroll down to the end of this post for conclusions.
Let’s start with a case which not only couldn’t be more clearer but also had some impact on others…
| Move, Decision, Trade | Verdict | Predictable? | Notes |
| Kevin Garnett resigned for 5yrs | - | - | - |
| Trenton Hassell resigned for 6yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | never above avg, 6 yrs?! |
| Troy Hudson resigned for 6yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | once above avg by PER, 6 yrs?! |
| Rashad McCants drafted at #14 | FAIL | YES | Old and Inefficient scorer in college |
| Mark Madsen resigned for 5yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Not productive in limited minutes, 5 yrs?! |
| Marko Jaric, Lionel Chalmers acquired for Sam Cassell, first round pick (protected top 10 through 2011, unprotected in 2012) | Huge FAIL | MAYBE | Jaric way younger, Cassell wanted out? Pick became top asset |
| Ricky Davis, Marcus Banks, Mark Blount acquired for Wally Szczerbiak, Michael Olowokandi, Dwayne Jones, first round pick (2009 #6) | FAIL | NO | Toss up with players, pick delayed and became top asset |
| rights to Randy Foye acquired for rights to Brandon Roy | Huge FAIL | YES | Roy 1 yr older but way more productive in college |
| Mike James signed for 4yrs | Huge FAIL | MAYBE | Had couple above avg seasons but signed at 31 |
| Juwan Howard acquired for Mike James | WIN | MAYBE | Dumped bad contract for expiring |
| Corey Brewer drafted at #7 | FAIL | MAYBE | Avg in college though with defender rep |
| Kevin Garnett traded to Celtics | - | - | - |
As far as I remember NOBODY blamed Garnett for his desire to leave Timberwolves and it most certainly wasn’t because of a market size or money – if GM’s best move in 4 years is a salary dump of contract which he has signed… well, you can only feel sorry for the player and ask 100 times per day WHY MCHALE WAS A GM FOR SO LONG?!?!?!
Next case…
| Move, Decision, Trade | Verdict | Predictable? | Notes |
| LeBron James drafted at #1 | - | - | - |
| Ira Newble signed for 5yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | never above avg, 5 yrs?! |
| Kevin Ollie signed for 5yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | never above avg, 5 yrs?! |
| Eric Williams, Tony Battie, Kedrick Brown acquired for Ricky Davis, Chris Mihm, Michael Stewart | WASH | MAYBE | Dumped Ricky Davis’ contract a year after he was signed |
| Sasha Pavlovic acquired for protected pick | FAIL | MAYBE | At his best Sasha was below avg, pick ended up being #22 and Dudley |
| Luke Jackson drafted at #10 | Huge FAIL | YES | Old, bad, out of the league in 3 years |
| Carlos Boozer team declined to exercise contract option for 2004-05, making player a restricted free agent – lost restricted free agent (did not match offer sheet from Jazz) | Huge FAIL | MAYBE | Allegedly Boozer’s fault but they declined an option |
| Eric Snow acquired for Kevin Ollie, Kedrick Brown | WASH | MAYBE | Snow had some above avg seasons in the past but acquired at 31 and overpaid |
| Drew Gooden, Steven Hunter, rights to Anderson Varejao acquired for Tony Battie, picks | Huge WIN | MAYBE | Gooden and Varejao better and cheaper than Battie |
| Jiri Welsch acquired for pick | Huge FAIL | YES | Welsh was bad and quickly out of the league, pick turned out to be #24 and Rudy Fernandez |
| Dan Gilbert bought a team | - | - | - |
| Zydrunas Ilgauskas resigned for 5yrs | WASH | MAYBE | Big Z had above avg seasons but he earned over 11M$/y |
| Donyell Marshall resigned for 4yrs | FAIL | MAYBE | 2 avg-ish seasons, 2 below, productive past but signed at 32 |
| Larry Hughes resigned for 5yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Rewarded for a career year, never above avg after that |
| Damon Jones signed for 4yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Rewarded for a career year, never above avg after that |
| Daniel Gibson drafted at #42 | WIN | NO | Rotation player in 2nd round |
| LeBron James resigned for 3yrs | - | - | - |
| Gooden resigned for 3yrs | WIN | YES | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Sasha Pavlovic resigned for 3yrs | FAIL | YES | below avg with avg salary though he was young |
| Anderson Varejao resigned for 3yrs | WIN | YES | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Ben Wallace & Delonte West acquired for Hughes & Gooden | WASH | MAYBE | Bad contract for bad contract, solid player for solid player |
| J.J. Hickson drafted at #19 | WIN | MAYBE | Solid & cheap rotation player |
| Daniel Gibson resigned for 5yrs | FAIL | YES | solid young rotation player, too long & expensive |
| Mo Williams acquired for Damon Jones, Joe Smith | WIN | YES | Mo was the best player but he was a salary dump for other team |
| Delonte West resigned for 2yrs | WASH | MAYBE | Solid player for solid salary, missed games though |
| Christian Eyenga drafted at #30 | FAIL* | MAYBE | * at least so far |
| Shaq acquired for Ben Wallace | WASH | YES | Win in talent, loss in payroll |
| Anderson Varejao resigned for 6yrs | WIN* | YES | * at least so far |
| Anthony Parker signed for 2yrs | WIN | YES | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Jamison acquired for BigZ | FAIL | NO | Productive but expensive and old |
| LeBron James traded to Heat | - | - | - |
By my count during LeBron’s career in Cavs uniform they had more Huge FAILs than WINs…
with overall batting average for their decisions around 0.300.
What’s more shocking is how predictable those huge fails were and how many wins were basically about one player – Varejao. Interesting question is… when LeBron had decided to leave?
My guess would be “Ben Wallace for Hughes trade” which started a spiral of short-term moves which downgraded long-term picture.
If you are reading this by now you probably know where am I going with this but to complete this journey…
| Move, Decision, Trade | Verdict | Predictable? | Notes |
| Chris Bosh drafted at #4 | - | - | - |
| Jalen Rose, Donyell Marshall acquired for Antonio Davis, Jerome Williams, Chris Jefferies | Huge FAIL | YES | Acquired players were old, worse and more expensive |
| Rafael Araujo drafted at #8 | Huge FAIL | MAYBE | Productive in college but old when drafted |
| Morris Peterson resigned for 3yrs | WASH | YES | Average player for 5M$/y |
| Alonzo Mourning, Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, #16, #20 acquired for Vince Carter | Huge FAIL | YES | Vince wanted to be traded so Raptors didn’t have any leverage |
| Joey Graham drafted at #16 | FAIL | YES | Rotation player for a few years then out of the league |
| Charlie Villanueva drafted at #7 | WASH | NO | Rotation player, quickly traded |
| Jose Calderon signed for 3yrs | WIN | MAYBE | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Mike James acquired for Rafer Alston | WASH | YES | Swap of old and bad veterans |
| Antonio Davis acquired for Jalen Rose, 2006 first round pick | WASH | YES | Basically a salary dump paid with a draft pick |
| Kris Humphries acquired for Rafael Araujo | WIN | YES | Productive but… in very limited minutes |
| Rasho Nesterovic acquired for Matt Bonner | WASH | YES | Solid veteran for solid veteran |
| Andrea Bargnani drafted at #1 | Huge FAIL | NO | So far expensive and unproductive |
| T.J. Ford acquired for Charlie Villanueva | WASH | MAYBE | Win in terms of talent but created a strange mix at PG |
| Jorge Garbajosa signed for 3yrs | FAIL | MAYBE | Only one solid season, out after that |
| Anthony Parker signed for 3yrs | WIN | MAYBE | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Chris Bosh resigned for 3yrs | - | - | - |
| Fred Jones signed for 3yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Rewarded for a career year, never above avg after that, quickly traded |
| T.J. Ford resigned for 4yrs | FAIL | YES | Salary higher than his production, traded after 2yrs |
| Carlos Delfino acquired for 2 second-rounders | WIN | YES | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Jamario Moon signed for 2yrs | WIN | NO | Productivity at or above his salary plus feel good story |
| Jason Kapono signed for 4yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Rewarded for a career year, never above avg after that |
| Kris Humphries resigned for 3yrs | WASH | YES | Productive but… in very limited minutes |
| Jermaine O’Neal acquired for T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic | WASH | YES | Swap of overpaid players |
| Jose Calderon resigned for 5yrs | WASH | MAYBE | Started as a huge win, became underused, injury-prone with too much focus on his weaknesses |
| Shawn Marion acquired for Jermaine O’Neal, Jamario Moon | WASH | MAYBE | Swap of overpaid players |
| Reggie Evans acquired for Jason Kapono | Huge WIN | YES | Way more productive player and better fit for same salary |
| Andrea Bargnani resigned for 5yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | So far expensive and unproductive |
| DeMar DeRozan drafted at #9 | FAIL | YES | Two weak seasons though still young so he can improve |
| Hedo Turkoglu acquired for Shawn Marion, Kris Humphries & signed for 5 yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Just a spectacular fail talent-wise and financially |
| Jarrett Jack signed for 4yrs | Huge FAIL | MAYBE | Avg player with avg salary but a) they didn’t need him, b) “Bosh’s friend”, c) quickly traded |
| Marco Belinelli acquired for Devean George | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive role-players |
| Amir Johnson acquired for Carlos Delfino | WIN* | YES | * at least so far, too late for Bosh though and in his place |
| Ed Davis drafted at #13 | WIN* | YES | * at least so far, too late for Bosh though and in his place |
| Amir Johnson signed for 5yrs | WIN* | YES | * at least so far, too late for Bosh though and in his place |
| Chris Bosh traded to Heat | - | - | - |
Again more Huge FAILs than WINs for an overall batting average around 0.272.
Raptors are an interesting case because on one hand they found a way to add productive and cheap foreign players to their roster but on the other hand that fetish led them to Hedo Turkoglu and Andrea Bargnani which signed for over 100 millions dollars and would be my best guess on why Bosh left.
Ironically the best moves in that period were as a replacement for Bosh ;-)
Here’s the latest victim…
| Move, Decision, Trade | Verdict | Predictable? | Notes |
| Chris Paul drafted at #4 | - | - | - |
| Brandon Bass drafted at #33 | WASH | NO | Future rotation player in 2nd round [win] but on a different team as a UFA [fail] |
| Desmond Mason, #15 in 2006 acquired for Jamaal Magloire | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive role-players |
| Marc Jackson, Linton Johnson III acquired for Bostjan Nachbar | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive role-players |
| Cedric Simmons drafted at #15 | FAIL | YES | Quickly out of the league |
| Hilton Armstrong drafted at #12 | Huge FAIL | YES | Old, unproductive in college, played few minutes and was bad in them |
| Peja Stojakovic signed for 5yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | 28-yrs old scorer on the downside for 65M$/5y? He was really good in Sac but really? |
| Tyson Chandler acquired for P.J. Brown, J.R. Smith | WIN | MAYBE | Small for big & need but JR Smith also benefited from change of team and played well |
| Rasual Butler resigned for 4yrs | FAIL | YES | Cheap but bad, 4yrs?! |
| David West resigned for 5yrs | WIN | MAYBE | Productivity close to his salary |
| Julian Wright drafted at #13 | FAIL | NO | Promising 1st season, limited minutes |
| Morris Peterson signed for 4yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Bad & outside of rotation after 1st season, 4 yrs?! |
| Bonzi Wells, Mike James acquired for Bobby Jackson | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive veterans |
| Darrell Arthur drafted at #27 & traded for cash | WASH | NO | Future rotation player late in draft [win] but on a different team for cash [fail] |
| James Posey signed for 4yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | 32 yrs old when signed, rewarded for a championship presence on Celtics? 4 yrs?! |
| Chris Paul resigned for 3yrs | - | - | - |
| Antonio Daniels acquired for Mike James | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive veterans |
| Darren Collison drafted at #21 | WIN | NO | Good & cheap backup |
| rights to Marcus Thornton acquired for 2 future 2nd rounders | WIN | NO | Good & cheap backup |
| Emeka Okafor acquired for Tyson Chandler | WASH | YES | Similiar talent, worse contract vs worse injury history |
| Darius Songaila, Bobby Brown acquired for Antonio Daniels, 2014 second round pick | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive veterans |
| #11 traded to dump salary | Huge FAIL | YES | Literally gave away asset to erase old mistake |
| Marco Belinelli acquired for Julian Wright | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive youngsters |
| Trevor Ariza acquired for Darren Collison, James Posey | FAIL | YES | Gave away asset to erase old mistake, Ariza useful but overpaid |
| Willie Green, Jason Smith acquired for Craig Brackins, Darius Songaila | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive veterans |
| Jerryd Bayless acquired for #19 in 2011 | WIN | MAYBE | Promising known youngster for unknown youngster |
| David Andersen, Marcus Banks, Jarrett Jack acquired for Jerryd Bayless, Peja Stojakovic | FAIL | YES | Older & more expensive backup PG with junk to erase old mistake |
| Carl Landry acquired for Marcus Thornton | WASH | YES | Swap of productive youngsters who got paid next offseason |
| Chris Paul traded to Clippers | - | - | - |
By my count their batting average for significant roster decisions was at a whooping 0.192!
IMHO their love for old and overpriced spot-up shooters killed their chances to resign Paul.
Finally, a very good candidate for a future move…
| Move, Decision, Trade | Verdict | Predictable? | Notes |
| Dwight Howard drafted at #1 | - | - | - |
| rights to Jameer Nelson acquired for future late 1st rounder | Huge WIN | MAYBE | avg starter at #20 |
| Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley, Kelvin Cato acquired for Tracy McGrady, Tyronn Lue, Reece Gaines, Juwan Howard | Huge FAIL | YES | TMac the best player – demanded a trade? – swapped for 2 avg-ish & expensive |
| Tony Battie acquired for Drew Gooden, Steven Hunter, rights to Anderson Varejao | Huge FAIL | YES | Two good youngsters for “proven veteran” |
| Hedo Turkoglu signed for 6yrs | WIN | MAYBE | Productivity at or above his salary |
| Doug Christie acquired for Cuttino Mobley | WASH | YES | Swap of unproductive role-players |
| Fran Vazquez drafted at #11 | Huge FAIL | MAYBE | Still in Spain |
| rights to Marcin Gortat acquired for cash considerations | Huge WIN | NO | In hindsight amazing steal |
| Keyon Dooling signed for 3yrs | FAIL | YES | Cheap but unproductive |
| Darko Milicic, Carlos Arroyo acquired for Kelvin Cato, #15 pick in 2007 | FAIL | YES | Wash in talent, surprisingly pick became top asset involved |
| Trevor Ariza, Penny Hardaway acquired for Steve Francis | Huge WIN | MAYBE | Salary dump which netted them solid youngster |
| J.J. Redick drafted at #11 | WASH | MAYBE | Solid & cheap rotation player |
| Rashard Lewis acquired for 2nd rounder & signed for 6yrs | Huge FAIL | YES | Never at level of his salary before and after, way too long contract |
| Dwight Howard resigned for 5yrs | - | - | - |
| Jameer Nelson resigned for 5yrs | FAIL | YES | average player with limitations od D on rookie deal is a win, for 8-9M$/y it’s a fail |
| Brian Cook, Maurice Evans acquired for Trevor Ariza | Huge FAIL | YES | Cook, Evans were better fit because of shooting but Ariza far better player |
| Courtney Lee drafted at #22 | WIN | MAYBE | Solid & cheap rotation player |
| Mickael Pietrus signed for 4yrs | FAIL | YES | Roller-coaster in previous team and with Magic |
| Rafer Alston acquired for Brian Cook, Adonal Foyle, 2009 late first round pick | WASH | YES | Win in terms of short-tem talent, loss in payroll and future assets |
| Vince Carter, Ryan Anderson acquired for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie, Courtney Lee | WIN | YES | Vince dissapointed but still better than players traded, Ryan more than a throw-in |
| Brandon Bass signed for 4yrs | WASH | YES | Avg Player for avg salary, contract probably too long |
| Marcin Gortat resigned for 5yrs | WIN | YES | There were right to match his offer |
| Chris Duhon signed for 4yrs | FAIL | NO | Solid history but productivity crashed after he joined Magic, 4yrs for a backup? |
| Quentin Richardson signed for 4yrs | WASH | MAYBE | Solid history and cheap but contract simply too long |
| J.J. Redick resigned for 3yrs | FAIL | YES | average player with limitations od D on rookie deal is a win, for 7-8M$/y + tax it’s a fail |
| Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu acquired for Rashard Lewis, Vince Carter, Mickael Pietrus, Marcin Gortat | Huge FAIL | YES | Spectacular fail on many levels |
| Dwight Howard requested a trade | - | - | - |
By my count batting average around 0.291. BTW, without any hesitation I could have added Glen Davis’ contract as a Huge FAIL though this time in my opinion terrible trades will be to blame…
To sum up this topic, here’s a cheat sheet
“what GM shouldn’t do to loose his franchise player”:
1) Never, ever, under any circumstances offer a contract with 4 or more years in it to an average-ish role-player – if he is also old just threw that money out of the window so at least your salary cap will be in a better shape,
2) Don’t draft players without any upside who weren’t good in college – if they are also old, just trade this pick for a future pick or a cash,
3) Don’t make moves to keep franchise player, do them only to improve team!
3a) Don’t make trades just to make trades, they doesn’t help but often they just waste space in your payroll,
4) For the love of the fans or your job, please at least check a couple advanced stats for veteran players before making an offer – seriously, only few seconds on wagesofwins.com, basketball-reference.com or many others will help you avoiding many, many mistakes.
Simple, right? And to answer the most fundamental question…
TOP NBA STARS LEAVE BECAUSE OF AN INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT!
To bring this point home I wrote about Franchise Players who Stayed with their original NBA Team.
wiLQ
December 23, 2011 at 15:30
It’s quiet here but on forum http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3454117&pagenumber=54 a couple of users made some points I’d like to comment on:
Rick wrote “Yeah, the Cavs batted .30 since he was drafted, but they only failed 30% of the time after resigning him”.
That’s true but a) their payroll was in terrible shape going forward from various past mistakes and b) team was really old so overall it wasn’t a very desirable team for a young superstar.
vegaji wrote “The writer didn’t include Nuggets/Jazz breakdowns, because they had fairly solid moves/drafting.”
No, all aforementioned franchise players specifically requested a trade or signed as free agents.
Deron was traded not because of his wish but because of Jazz’s decision to move on from him [he also had a fight with coach which probably didn't help].
Carmelo did request a trade but a) he is NOT a franchise player [for proof check Nuggets last season or in this one], b) he clearly cared about other things than winning [seriously, he left better team!] so in his case I think there’s no mystery why he wanted to leave. He just wanted to play with his buddy in NY, case closed.
Power of Pecota wrote: “Regarding the Bosh timeline:
* I think the verdict on the TJ Ford extension is a little harsh given how much his injuries flared up afterwards and Calderon not looking like a real starting option yet, same with the Ford/Villanueva swap.
* Garbajosa only had one good year because of a freak injury and him ignoring team doctor orders about recovering from said injury, writing it off as one solid year and gone is oversimplifying a little bit.
* The trade for Marion is way worse than portrayed. O’Neal’s contract was larger and expired a year before Marion’s, and Moon was an effective rotation guy. It was basically a trading chip and a rotation player for a worse trading chip.
* I can’t believe Amir Johnson’s contract is considered a win, especially now that he’s blocking Ed Davis”
Re Garbajosa, TJ Ford – so injuries shouldn’t count?
Also they quickly moved on from them, doesn’t it tell us something?
Re Marion – there was also Marcus Banks involved!
Re Amir – IMHO Davis and Amir should take minutes from Andrea but Raptors would have to admit he was a mistake.
DeimosRising wrote: “Holy poo poo is this dude a bad writer though. There are some syntactical hints he’s not a native english speaker, which makes it more forgivable, but a lot of that site is really painful to read.”
English is my second language but could you be more specific about those mistakes?
Goran's #1 Fan
December 27, 2011 at 18:39
Thanks for the article, it’s informative and thorough.
You’ve done a good job breaking down teams that lost stars, but what about teams that kept them?
Could you do a breakdown of the Thunder since they drafted Durant? That seems to be a test case for how to build a team so that the superstar re-signs.
Thanks!
wiLQ
December 27, 2011 at 23:43
“You’ve done a good job breaking down teams that lost stars, but what about teams that kept them? Could you do a breakdown of the Thunder since they drafted Durant? That seems to be a test case for how to build a team so that the superstar re-signs.”
That was my next post! You can read it here:
http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/why-franchise-players-stayed-with-original-nba-team/